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Entrance exam King Edwards School, Birmingham. 1898
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Smaug The Magnificent
2004-11-30 20:26:12 UTC
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The wearying debate about the decline in standards in the British
education system has finally thrown up something interesting.

As far as I remember Tolkien took the entrance exam for King Edwards
School Birmingham in 1899, failed but was admitted the following year.

These are some of the exam questions tackled by 11-year-olds applying
for places at King Edward's School in Birmingham in 1898.

How would you do?

Arithmetic

1. Multiply 642035 by 24506

2. Subtract 3.25741 from 3.3; multiply 28.436 by 8.245; divide 0.86655
by 26.5

3. Simplify 183/4 minus 22/3 divided by 11/5 minus 31/2 multiplied by
4/7

English grammar

1. Parse fully "And call the cattle home."

2. Explain the meaning of o' Dee, dank with foam, western tide, round
and round the sand, the rolling mist.

3. Write out separately the simple sentences in the last two lines of
the above passage and analyse them.


Geography

1. On the outline map provided, mark the position of Carlisle,
Canterbury, Plymouth, Hull, Gloucester, Swansea, Southampton,
Worcester, Leeds, Leicester and Norwich; Morecambe Bay, The Wash,
Solent, Menai Straits and Lyme Bay; St Bees Head, The Naze, Lizard
Point; the rivers Trent and Severn; Whernside, the North Downs, and
Plinlimmon, and state on a separate paper what the towns named above
are noted for.

2. Where are silver, platinum, tin, wool, wheat, palm oil, furs and
cacao got from?

5. Where are Omdurman, Wai-Hei-Wai, Crete, Santiago, and West Key, and
what are they noted for?


English history

1. What kings of England began to reign in the years 871, 1135, 1216,
1377, 1422, 1509, 1625, 1685, 1727, 1830?

2. Give some account of Egbert, William II, Richard III, Robert Blake,
Lord Nelson.

3. State what you know of Henry II's quarrel with Becket, the taking
of Calais by Edward III, the attempt to make Lady Jane Grey queen, the
trial of the Seven bishops, the Gordon riots.

(courtesy of The Guardian - they left out the Latin questions because
they thought that no-one these days would understand them)

I must admit that even having attained a reasonable education I would
struggle with this.

Tolkien was seven when he took the following years test.

Cheers

Smaug
NotYou
2004-12-01 13:55:00 UTC
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I don't think my palm is big enough for me to pass that test. I couldn't
write that small.
Post by Smaug The Magnificent
The wearying debate about the decline in standards in the British
education system has finally thrown up something interesting.
As far as I remember Tolkien took the entrance exam for King Edwards
School Birmingham in 1899, failed but was admitted the following year.
These are some of the exam questions tackled by 11-year-olds applying
for places at King Edward's School in Birmingham in 1898.
How would you do?
Arithmetic
1. Multiply 642035 by 24506
2. Subtract 3.25741 from 3.3; multiply 28.436 by 8.245; divide 0.86655
by 26.5
3. Simplify 183/4 minus 22/3 divided by 11/5 minus 31/2 multiplied by
4/7
English grammar
1. Parse fully "And call the cattle home."
2. Explain the meaning of o' Dee, dank with foam, western tide, round
and round the sand, the rolling mist.
3. Write out separately the simple sentences in the last two lines of
the above passage and analyse them.
Geography
1. On the outline map provided, mark the position of Carlisle,
Canterbury, Plymouth, Hull, Gloucester, Swansea, Southampton,
Worcester, Leeds, Leicester and Norwich; Morecambe Bay, The Wash,
Solent, Menai Straits and Lyme Bay; St Bees Head, The Naze, Lizard
Point; the rivers Trent and Severn; Whernside, the North Downs, and
Plinlimmon, and state on a separate paper what the towns named above
are noted for.
2. Where are silver, platinum, tin, wool, wheat, palm oil, furs and
cacao got from?
5. Where are Omdurman, Wai-Hei-Wai, Crete, Santiago, and West Key, and
what are they noted for?
English history
1. What kings of England began to reign in the years 871, 1135, 1216,
1377, 1422, 1509, 1625, 1685, 1727, 1830?
2. Give some account of Egbert, William II, Richard III, Robert Blake,
Lord Nelson.
3. State what you know of Henry II's quarrel with Becket, the taking
of Calais by Edward III, the attempt to make Lady Jane Grey queen, the
trial of the Seven bishops, the Gordon riots.
(courtesy of The Guardian - they left out the Latin questions because
they thought that no-one these days would understand them)
I must admit that even having attained a reasonable education I would
struggle with this.
Tolkien was seven when he took the following years test.
Cheers
Smaug
Noel Q. von Schneiffel
2004-12-01 21:55:13 UTC
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Post by Smaug The Magnificent
The wearying debate about the decline in standards in the British
education system has finally thrown up something interesting.
As far as I remember Tolkien took the entrance exam for King Edwards
School Birmingham in 1899, failed but was admitted the following year.
These are some of the exam questions tackled by 11-year-olds applying
for places at King Edward's School in Birmingham in 1898.
Ha! Ha! Quod ego dixit? Quod ego dixit?
Tolkienus est genius et master magnificantem. You all are non worthy
de his sandalis lickare!
Post by Smaug The Magnificent
(courtesy of The Guardian - they left out the Latin questions because
they thought that no-one these days would understand them)
Spoilsportum.
--
Noel Q. von Schneiffel
Prophetum Minimum

Trolli et Balroggi
Creatent in caput foggi
Solus Tolkieni veritas
Createt lux et clearitas

Purposum signaturii est populum educare. Sic, id homo quis clamat
signatura mea too longum esse, in veritas clamat: "Ego desire
idiotum esse".
Christopher Kreuzer
2004-12-01 22:38:59 UTC
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Post by Noel Q. von Schneiffel
Post by Smaug The Magnificent
(courtesy of The Guardian - they left out the Latin questions because
they thought that no-one these days would understand them)
Spoilsportum.
LOL! This makes me feel like I'm in an Asterix comic book!
Troels Forchhammer
2004-12-05 00:42:47 UTC
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Post by Christopher Kreuzer
Post by Noel Q. von Schneiffel
Spoilsportum.
LOL! This makes me feel like I'm in an Asterix comic book!
ROTFL!

You can get to be that English cousin (I don't know what he's called in
English, but in Danish he is 'Fixfax').
--
Troels Forchhammer

I USHERED SOULS INTO THE NEXT WORLD. I WAS THE GRAVE OF ALL HOPE. I WAS
THE ULTIMATE REALITY. I WAS THE ASSASSIN AGAINST WHOM NO LOCK WOULD HOLD.
"Yes, point taken, but do you have any particular skills?"
- Death consults a job broker (Terry Pratchett, Mort)
TT Arvind
2004-12-05 01:14:50 UTC
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Wes ðu Troels Forchhammer hal!
Post by Troels Forchhammer
ROTFL!
You can get to be that English cousin (I don't know what he's called in
English, but in Danish he is 'Fixfax').
Anticlimax in the wonderful English translation, and Brasstax in the
eminently-forgettable American.
--
Meneldilix

"These Orcs are crazy!"
- Asterix in Gondor
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